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I saw that marcih also has a PinePhone, so good enough to start a thread I say.

Planning to try Sxmo.
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I bought the Manjaro Community Edition, thankfully no other major HW bugs have been found and all the subsequent CE's were the same mainboard revision; I'm not celebrating yet, we still don't know about the final release, but I can't say I'm having any buyers remorse.

I'm currently on Mobian, it's the most stable while still being usable as a daily driver and it also seem to be run somewhat competently. Manjaro on the other hand... And that's not counting things like their factory image shipping with Geary segfaulting, locale not being set properly for the GUI session or whatever this is.

The biggest issue at the moment (aside from the "no apps" evergreen) is the cellular modem: when the phone is in suspend, it currently takes at least 3 rings on the caller side for the PinePhone to finally start ringing. This has thankfully been addressed and is currently being tested and upstreamed.

Morality124 wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:44 pm Planning to try Sxmo.
Suckless on mobile? I think I'll pass, I can't stand it on a desktop, let alone my phone! :lol: I've also seen reports that using the volume and power buttons all the time wears them out quickly, or at least the little plastic on the back cover.
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I'd love an open phone... but it needs better specs and to be able to work cleanly on my provider (Verizon), or it's a non-starter.

I currently have a Note9, which is close to a perfect phone in terms of specs (I hate, hate, hate the curved glass edges on the screen, which totally ruins the S-Pen experience, I miss having a physical home button, I'd like a user replaceable battery, and I'm not a fan of Android 9 removing the ability to record calls).
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I'd love to have an open phone as well but I need the Google ecosystem for work
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cokey wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:00 pm I'd love to have an open phone as well but I need the Google ecosystem for work
There is an emulation layer for Android apps on Linux that works with the PinePhone.
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marcih wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:23 pm Suckless on mobile? I think I'll pass, I can't stand it on a desktop, let alone my phone! :lol: I've also seen reports that using the volume and power buttons all the time wears them out quickly, or at least the little plastic on the back cover.
Easy to replace unlike other phones though
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Morality124 wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:32 pm There is an emulation layer for Android apps on Linux that works with the PinePhone.
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Morality124 wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:39 pm
marcih wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:23 pm Suckless on mobile? I think I'll pass, I can't stand it on a desktop, let alone my phone! :lol: I've also seen reports that using the volume and power buttons all the time wears them out quickly, or at least the little plastic on the back cover.
Easy to replace unlike other phones though
I don't think that's the part that breaks, it's the plastic pieces on the actual back cover. Either is easy to replace, yes, but I'd rather not have to replace it if I don't have to. ;)
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PINE64 announced the PinePhone Pro.

Who on earth thought that was a good idea? The problem from the start has been that mobile Linux stack isn't mature enough yet not that the hardware isn't good enough, as suggested both by developers around the device and by anecdotal evidence from people trying GloDroid (AOSP 11 with partial PinePhone support).

What's the goal with this thing? Do the modern approach of throwing more powerful hardware on crap software until it runs acceptably well and move on? Even if that's not it I'm afraid it will incentivise devs to do just that.
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I think they reviewed one in Linus whatever it's called, the youtube channel. And it is basically slow as fuck, I also don't see the reason you should recreate desktop setup (dmenu, st, dwm) on your phone, you can't type that well. The touchscreen forces you to use icon driven interface.
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Anyone here got any of the pinephones yet?

I'm actually considering it, mostly as a toy... It'd be the cheaper version though.
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I think Quectel E25-G modem require proprietary firmware blob, but at the same time no one says that this is a phone with a truly opensource firmware.
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antae wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:16 pm I think Quectel E25-G modem require proprietary firmware blob, but at the same time no one says that this is a phone with a truly opensource firmware.
The modem firmware was reverse engineered to the point they can put an free-software blob in there.
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